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transformer less input circuit
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:19 pm
by skal1
Heikki. could your transformer less input circuit work in the 670 Fairchild comp.
cheers
Dennis
Re: transformer less input circuit
Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:19 pm
by scott2000
Until Heikki arrives, I've attached a translated version of the document that is at the bottom of the vari mu home page.
https://ghr.fi/varimu.html
It's translated from Finnish
Towards the end it talks about the theory of transformerless.
Re: transformer less input circuit
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:57 pm
by Heikki
skal1 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:19 pm
Heikki. could your transformer less input circuit work in the 670 Fairchild comp.
Short answer is no. Slightly longer answer is maybe. Assuming you would keep rest of the 670 without any changes you could use something like in the picture below. Except Fairchild has very large control voltage which can be more than 60V and the signal peaks might be even larger, so anything with +-15V supply isn't enough. There are high voltage opamps and differential amplifiers available which you could use.
Re: transformer less input circuit
Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2024 12:53 am
by skal1
cheers for that, i thought it would kind of work, where would the center tap go pin 8 and 14 ? and i take it pin 9& 13 are o/p to the control grid ? whats that u3a op amp for.
best
denis
Re: transformer less input circuit
Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:10 pm
by Heikki
U3 pin 3 is the "center tap" where the control voltage goes. Since U3 is a buffer you wouldn't need power amplifier for the sidechain. Yes U2 pin 13 & 9 go to the grids. Fairchild input transformer has large step up ratio, U1 could be replaced with differential amplifier with adjustable gain.
Re: transformer less input circuit
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:08 am
by skal1
Cheers Heikki thanks for the knowledge , not going to get around doing it any time soon to busy @ work
i think the first step will be figuring out the voltage gain of the i/p tx and then try to recreate that with an op amp
cheers
Denis
Re: transformer less input circuit
Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 3:44 pm
by Heikki
Here's a general replacement for input transformer in vari mu compressors.
varimuinput.pdf
This won't work for Fairchild 660 because power supply max is +/- 45V. For Fairchild you would need opamp with higher power supply voltage.
Here are the KiCAD design files
varimuinput.zip
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Picture of the board
varimuinput.png